I tried to introduce my friend to galactica with this episode and we gave up after 2 minutes. Its used as a mechanism to introduce new characters for the next series and show their role in the pegasus plot tree.
Even as an avid fun up for a good episode I would recommend some revision of the previous series beforehand. Further deep review in the TV show's page. I watched the televised version and felt like there was a lot missing, like focus and a storyline.
This show was predictable right to the lame ending. I had hopes of seeing the war from the point of view of the Pegasus crew instead they spent the whole time focused on the character of Kendra Shaw and her role with Lee Adama as her commander and only small flashbacks to her serving under Admiral Cain and even then gave very little of her story.
They hint that she used her mother as clout to get her first position but we never found out whom her mother was. Most of the story lines we see in this version are very similar to what we have already seen on Galactica. The shooting of the civilians for example was done in season 1 of Galactica when the troupes shot several people on one of the ships while trying to transfer supplies. The storys sub plot of the old style Cylon's looked like it was almost an after thought with little to do with anything other then to point the audience suspicion to Staruck and her newly discovered path to earth.
There was very little new in this special and most of it was seen in seasons 2 and 3, I may rent the DVD version to see if the story has any more depth but as of seeing the Sci-Fi channel version I need to give this a thumbs down. Here is an update, I just saw the extended version. Not any better. Francois84 4 October I'm still making my way through the series box-set of this show.
Having finished season three, this feature length TV movie was up next, before the first episode of season four. It's a real disappointment. Whilst BSG has had its ups and downs though mostly up in my opinion over the past three seasons, 'Razor' plummets the show to a whole new low. Its adds nothing to the narrative of the first three seasons, and in some ways detracts and takes away from established characters and storylines.
What's ironic is that some of the best episodes of the entire series are retroactively given a misservice by this sloppy mess that attempts, but fails monumentally, to fill in the blanks that didn't need to be filled in, and nobody had wondered about. It's utterly pointless. Add to that, some of the worst writing, acting, direction and whatever else you care to name of think of, which is baffling considering how good BSG has been.
How producers of a show that has consistently been well written and executed managed to plumb the depths so badly here I'll never know or understand. Sure, as I've said, there been ups and downs along the way, and episodes that are stellar are sometimes followed by epsiodes that are less than stellar but still pretty strong , but then there's this utter contrived mess of nonsense that dishonours the previous high standards set by the main series.
Heck, even the low budget two-part mini-series is far better than 'Razor', and and that's saying something as that three-hour slog almost put me off bothering to watch BSG.
Thankfully I gave it a chance, but 'Razor' is a whole new low. I suppose the good news is that anything season four has to offer surely can't be as bad delivered or as plain dull and pointless as this TV movie? Freemheart 13 November I'm an old fan of the Classic Battlestar galactica. After watching again the whole season I truly believe Glenn Larson set many things in a very logic way, for example the martial law that gives Adama the power to command the fleet against the bureaucracy of the council of the twelve, something that Ronald D.
Moore erase with the "immortal" president. I try to find something good of the new version after hear so many reviews, but I really don't understand how can they be so blind, specially with Razor, who is the same old garbage withe the same mistakes from the show.
First: Many unnecessary characters whining for everything. Second: Technology from the future or other galaxy worst than the things we have in our real world.
Third: Heroes who doesn't even know how to act in a battle. Fourth: Special effects who seems to be pure CGI because there's no budget or brain for something better.
Fifth: Collage of scenes made as seem with camera on the hand who rattle to make more realistic the story seem to show the guy doesn't know how to use the equipment. Sixth: Almost no music. Actually there is a scene almost exactly to another from Star Trek First Contact, the same message, some powerful enemy with something mechanic part in a battle with human trying to escape in a corridor of one starship I'm not giving all details trying to avoid more spoilers In conclusion: Razor it's just the basic war story in the new Galactica cannon who tries to give some lessons for something we can learn in any other and more entertaining and very much realistic movie or TV show, like star trek First contact, Starship Troopers movie with main message it's the whole new Battlestar Galactica premise or even Babylon 5 and Stargate SG1.
I recommend only for the fans of the new show how doesn't open their eyes to the fantasy world of Ronald D. Moore where realism it's only in his imagination. When I had first heard of a "Battlestar: Galactica" film which was going to delve deeper into the storyline of the Pegasus and its crew prior to their dramatic collision with the heroes of the television series, I was excited.
Her turn as Admiral Cain in the television series was arguably the high point of Season Two and every bit as iconic on the show as the moments in which our heroes and villains struggled during the occupation of New Caprica, and the Final Four discovered their hidden identities. But the film, to my chagrin, was laden with rushed subplots, over-the-top moments, and annoying flashbacks with little relevance to the overall storyline.
The result was a weak hodgepodge of character development and ham-acting courtesy of the individual who played the young Admiral Adama , peppered with sub-par dialogue. Maybe it's because of the show's tremendous quality that I felt this way; I'm not entirely sure. What I am sure of is, as a fan of the outstanding series, I felt cheated. And it's a feeling I don't particularly appreciate. This is a review of the extended DVD version In Kendra Shaw, Ron Moore has delivered yet another tortured soul, but one who can hold her own against established characters Cain, Thrace, 6, and the Adamas.
An incredible achievement. BSG's effects have always served plot and character, but the free-fall scene between Adama and the Cylon highlights the superiority of this series to all other filmed SF and fantasy, on either TV or the Big Screen.
I am looking forward to the end of the series, which this film sets up. Not because I want to see it end, but because it will produce through its end what Star Trek never delivered, and Star Wars usatisfactorily did: a perfectly organic conclusion to the greatest piece of filmed science fiction ever made.
Ron, David, cast and crew: thank you from the bottom of my heart! I have seen a few people disappointed by the episode, I'm not too sure what these people were expecting because I really was not.
As a matter of fact it brought me exactly what I hoped it would: the visualisation of the rumours from Frisk about Cain and some more That is: The survival of the Pegasus during the Cylon surprise attack at the docking facility. The actual shooting in the head of the XO for disobeying orders. The shooting of families and the sacrificing of all the other civilians vessels and passengers Some more: The reason of the hatred of Admiral Caine to Number 6, people who are not familiar with lesbian or who may have been disappointed to picture Admiral Cain as being gay must have been upset, for me it gave more credit to the real hatred she shows during the series and give even more reason to Number 6 to go and shoot her back.
Also aside from macho point of view I like the way that the series flirts with more or less taboo subjects The extended version brings in even more CGI effects on the surprise attack, the first battle with the Guardians By William Adam and Cain's youth's memories Nicely done old centurions. Not too sure if I would advise new viewers to actually see Razor before watching season 2 episodes about Pegasus or after, up to you.
Looking eagerly for the 4th season. Overall, worth watching, but I really hope the series is better. I especially loved it's obvious parallels to the issues in our own present day society. These things seem to have faded slowly over time, and now BSG has more of a religious feel.
A story that's "on a mission from god". It lacks many of the edgy feel it started with. Razor: The concept was sound. I was looking forward to Cain becoming the "monster" we all met in BSG.
The situations she faced, the events that forced a well trained, well meaning soldier to become a brutal self serving killer.
I was looking forward to the hard choices the Pegasus made to survive alone in the universe. That was lacking. Instead there is the somewhat moral story of one soldier, Kendra, taking her own rather short path to destruction.
Cain's involvement and obvious betrayal by a Cylon. The transition from "can I really do this for the greater good" to "I must do whatever it takes" seemed to quick. One moment Cain is spouting "we won't be charging in for revenge", the next she's doing just that - with no explanation for the change of heart. The Cylons themselves, whilst fun to see the old 80's models in action, didn't add to the story.
One old man spouting "everything has already happened, and will happen again" didn't really add anything to the story. It didn't even seem to quite fit. That and the whole "oh, btw - starbuck Where'd that come from? You get all of this in the intros to BSG , and if you start with Season 1, Episode 1, "33," your viewing experience will be better.
If you're a huge fan, by all means, go back and watch The Miniseries. But if you're trying to get into the show to see why people love it, start with " The short answer to this question is no. If you want to love BSG and keep that love in your heart forever, there's a very real chance you might not want to watch the entire series.
Especially Season 4. Basically, the show is borderline perfect in Season 1. That's only 13 episodes. The cliffhanger at the end of Season 1 "Kobols' Last Gleaming Part 2" is fantastic, so you'll want to start watching Season 2 right away. Which you should totally do. Battlestar Galactica Season 2 , is arguably, even better than Season 1, and by the time you get to the mid-season episode "The Pegasus," you'll see why.
From that point, the show gets better and better, and each mystery deepens in a way you don't see coming. The outer-space action in Season 2 is also bonkers good, and you'll find yourself wishing that certain episodes and been theatrical movies.
Season 2 also ends on yet another excellent cliffhanger, which leads you into Season 3, and that's when things get tricky.
There's no easy way to say this, so I'm gonna say it outright. If you want to only get the best of Battlestar stop watching after Season 3 , Episode 4, "Exodus Part 2. After that. Improve this answer. Alan Barber Alan Barber 2, 16 16 silver badges 16 16 bronze badges. That's a great breakdown of where to start. Great answer! And thanks for putting the web series' in there too, I would not have known about those.
Good job. As for "The Plan", think of it as most definitely after the series in production and narrative order, but presented in flashback format. I would not watch Razor in that location. I would watch it in air order, so after Season 3. It's not crucial to the plot to do so except for a little Kara Thrace foreshadowing , but that's how its intended. And it doesn't exactly strain the imagination to watch it as a flashback.
Interesting idea to move The Plan, though; I quite like that. Just a warning, The Plan hints pretty blatantly whom the last of the original five Cylons is. At episode 15 of season 4 you will not know who this is. Whether or not that is a spoiler will be at your own discretion but taking this viewing order in advice I probably would not recommend The Plan until much later in season 4 or entirely after it. Show 12 more comments. It appears that the accepted answer on this page was largely taken from my Battlestar Galactica Viewing Order , which I created nearly four years ago : My episode order was the first to take into account all the BSG extras, like the web series, deleted scenes, extended episodes, etc.
Optional: Razor Flashbacks Note: This was billed as a "seven episode web series", but really they are just deleted scenes from the shorter broadcast version of Razor. Season 3 3. Django Reinhardt Django Reinhardt 9, 5 5 gold badges 49 49 silver badges 62 62 bronze badges. I like the skeleton of your recommendations, but the details are uneccessary and overly complex. You don't need to leave out the ending of Razor. It fits in fine during Season 2.
There are no spoilers. Everything revealed is mystical seeming mumbo-jumbo fortune telling that is encoded in symbolic language. A brand new viewer has no idea what, if any of Razor's ending is significant for the future.
I've shown many new BSG viewers the entirety of Razor after S2E17 with no detrimental read: spoiler effects on their viewing experience.
Seriously, try it the next time you screen the show with a new viewer. Related to Razor, you don't need to watch the Razor again, nor the last ten minutes, between Season 3 and 4. That would be silly and unbearably repetitive. It's much better when the new viewer organically and slowly pieces together the connections from "way back" in Season 2 to what is happening in Season 4. Watching all of Razor in Season 2 and leaving it there feels much more fluid and organic to the overall narrative.
It would be completely anti-climactic and really disrupts the overall flow of the story to watch it after the show. The Season 4 ending is such an emotional climax. The Plan, on the other hand, is very interesting, and narratively important, but not particularly good on its own. I watched razor and now the plan. I was surprised to learn that the wife of XO Saul tigh is a cylon. It was never revealed in any previous episode. So was this a mistake in the viewing order or it was meant to be revealed in the plan?
Because the revelation was so casual, i'm thinking there is an error in the order. Chronologically, watching "The Plan" when you did is correct. However, watching chronologically is not actually the suggested viewing order on this blog. As the author says, watching chronologically can spoil later reveals, and that's one of those. This is one show where the best viewing order is the actual production order. Post a Comment. I'm currently rewatching the revamped Battlestar Galactica for the first time in many years.
It's a show whose virtues have certainly become greater over the years but whose flaws have also more notable. Certainly it's a show that's still worth watching, if only to join in on the never-ending debate about the controversial ending.
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